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		<title>Comment on Provenance of a Personal Collection – Archival Accession, Arrangement and Description by familyfolklore</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Laura
Most genealogists and family historians first experience of archival standards is gobbled-gook references and un-intelligible catalogues and finding aids.  Many never progress beyond that understanding.  It took post-graduate education to de-mystify archival basics for me.

A good description contains most, if not all, the information required for a genealogical source citation and provides the information needed to properly assess the source using the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bcgcertification.org/resources/standard.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Genealogical Proof Standard&lt;/a&gt;.  In creating a source citation, genealogists are doing something closely related to an item level description, but also incorporate information from higher levels in the catalogue.  A citation for the marriage certificate might be:


&lt;blockquote&gt;Church of England, St Saviour&#039;s church, Saltley parish, County of Warwick.  Original certified copy of the Marriage Register, page 109, no 217, for Joshua Arthur Smith &amp; Beatrice Elizabeth Davis, married 23 May 1904, issued 23 May 1904.  Personal archive of Sue Adams [private address on request], RWC/1/4/4.   Raymond Walter Coulson (1922-1997) collection, Probate file, Winifred Clarke late Coulson, nee Smith (1906-1996) collection.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Depending on the context in which I used this certificate as evidence, I might expand the provenance information or cut it out.  

Archival data standards are way ahead of genealogical data standards.  Thank you for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://files.archivists.org/pubs/DACS2E-2013.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DACS update&lt;/a&gt;, which I did not know about.  Notable is the way this and other archival standards are working towards compatibility.  Which DACS elements would you use for my marriage certificate example?  I notice that you commented on my post to the &lt;a href=&quot;https://plus.google.com/communities/106988778354258259988?hl=en&amp;partnerid=gplp0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Evidentia Google+ Community&lt;/a&gt;.  Evidentia is software in development towards a source based approach to genealogical research.  How do the source citation templates compare to the DACS elements for this record?  Are they compatible?

There has been a good deal of discussion on genealogical data standards in the last couple of years, culminating in the formation of Family History Information Standards Organisation (&lt;a href=&quot;http://fhiso.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FHISO&lt;/a&gt;).  In order to make use of data in archival databases for genealogical purposes, genealogical data standards need to be compatible with archival standards.  So, input from archivists is essential.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laura<br />
Most genealogists and family historians first experience of archival standards is gobbled-gook references and un-intelligible catalogues and finding aids.  Many never progress beyond that understanding.  It took post-graduate education to de-mystify archival basics for me.</p>
<p>A good description contains most, if not all, the information required for a genealogical source citation and provides the information needed to properly assess the source using the <a href="http://www.bcgcertification.org/resources/standard.html" rel="nofollow">Genealogical Proof Standard</a>.  In creating a source citation, genealogists are doing something closely related to an item level description, but also incorporate information from higher levels in the catalogue.  A citation for the marriage certificate might be:</p>
<blockquote><p>Church of England, St Saviour&#8217;s church, Saltley parish, County of Warwick.  Original certified copy of the Marriage Register, page 109, no 217, for Joshua Arthur Smith &amp; Beatrice Elizabeth Davis, married 23 May 1904, issued 23 May 1904.  Personal archive of Sue Adams [private address on request], RWC/1/4/4.   Raymond Walter Coulson (1922-1997) collection, Probate file, Winifred Clarke late Coulson, nee Smith (1906-1996) collection.</p></blockquote>
<p>Depending on the context in which I used this certificate as evidence, I might expand the provenance information or cut it out.  </p>
<p>Archival data standards are way ahead of genealogical data standards.  Thank you for the <a href="http://files.archivists.org/pubs/DACS2E-2013.pdf" rel="nofollow">DACS update</a>, which I did not know about.  Notable is the way this and other archival standards are working towards compatibility.  Which DACS elements would you use for my marriage certificate example?  I notice that you commented on my post to the <a href="https://plus.google.com/communities/106988778354258259988?hl=en&amp;partnerid=gplp0" rel="nofollow">Evidentia Google+ Community</a>.  Evidentia is software in development towards a source based approach to genealogical research.  How do the source citation templates compare to the DACS elements for this record?  Are they compatible?</p>
<p>There has been a good deal of discussion on genealogical data standards in the last couple of years, culminating in the formation of Family History Information Standards Organisation (<a href="http://fhiso.org/" rel="nofollow">FHISO</a>).  In order to make use of data in archival databases for genealogical purposes, genealogical data standards need to be compatible with archival standards.  So, input from archivists is essential.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Provenance of a Personal Collection – Archival Accession, Arrangement and Description by Laura C. Lorenzana (@ArchivalBiz)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 13:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sue, you have touched on something I work every day to try to get through to family history researchers and genealogists: using Archival standards will improve accessibility to their own collections and make them easier to pass on to the next generation. You&#039;ve done a fabulous job of explaining what, on the outside, seems like a simple thing but is, in fact, quite complex. The Society of American Archivists updated DACS in January 2013, addressing some much needed changes as well as incorporating now ubiquitous digital materials. 

My only &#039;hmmm&#039; comment would be that I can&#039;t think of a repository that has materials cataloged down to the item level. It&#039;s a highly labor intensive prospect. I can see how it works for your personal collection, but might be too much or seem daunting to someone just trying to get their collection together. Having said that, cheers to you for creating an incredible personal collection!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue, you have touched on something I work every day to try to get through to family history researchers and genealogists: using Archival standards will improve accessibility to their own collections and make them easier to pass on to the next generation. You&#8217;ve done a fabulous job of explaining what, on the outside, seems like a simple thing but is, in fact, quite complex. The Society of American Archivists updated DACS in January 2013, addressing some much needed changes as well as incorporating now ubiquitous digital materials. </p>
<p>My only &#8216;hmmm&#8217; comment would be that I can&#8217;t think of a repository that has materials cataloged down to the item level. It&#8217;s a highly labor intensive prospect. I can see how it works for your personal collection, but might be too much or seem daunting to someone just trying to get their collection together. Having said that, cheers to you for creating an incredible personal collection!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is it George or Jack?  Engagement Photograph Identification by Provenance of a Personal Collection – Archival Accession, Arrangement and Description &#124; Family Folklore Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 10:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] her family, particularly the Smith side.  If you want to put a face to the name, she featured in ‘Is it George or Jack?  Engagement photograph identification’.  This collection identifies her parents, grandparents, and all 4 [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] her family, particularly the Smith side.  If you want to put a face to the name, she featured in ‘Is it George or Jack?  Engagement photograph identification’.  This collection identifies her parents, grandparents, and all 4 [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Common Surname Trouble – Adams in Birmingham by Picking up the Tailor’s Thread through Trade Directories &#124; Family Folklore Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 12:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] a tailor aged 27 in 1851, the brother of Edward John/James Adams, a jeweller, discussed in ‘Common Surname Trouble – Adams in Birmingham’, was my hope to identify the next generation back.  A convincing case can be made from 1861-1891 [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] a tailor aged 27 in 1851, the brother of Edward John/James Adams, a jeweller, discussed in ‘Common Surname Trouble – Adams in Birmingham’, was my hope to identify the next generation back.  A convincing case can be made from 1861-1891 [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on 50 Marriage Mondays &#8211; Golden Wedding Anniversary celebration by 20th Century sources – Electoral rolls, Google Maps and Land Registry &#124; Family Folklore Blog</title>
		<link>http://familyfolklore.wordpress.com/2012/09/01/50-marriage-mondays-golden-wedding-anniversary-celebration/#comment-356</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[20th Century sources – Electoral rolls, Google Maps and Land Registry &#124; Family Folklore Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 10:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] you have been following the 50 Marriage Mondays series, you will have seen a few examples of verifying such information using civil registration [...]]]></description>
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